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SPECIAL WSJ Tech Live: The Man Leading Trump’s AI Charge Against China (The Journal Podcast)

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The Wall Street Journal

Technology

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

This week, we’re bringing you an episode of The Journal, produced by Spotify and the Wall Street Journal. In this episode, recorded at WSJ’s Tech Live, host Jessica Mendoza sits down with Michael Kratsios, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, to discuss everything from chips to chatbots, how Kratsios thinks AI should be regulated, and whether or not the AI boom might be a bubble. To watch the video version of this episode, visit our WSJ Podcasts YouTube channel or the video page of WSJ.com. Check Out Past Episodes: Condoleezza Rice on Beating China in the Tech Race: 'Run Hard and Run Fast' Reid Hoffman Says AI Isn’t an ‘Arms Race,’ but America Needs to Win Why This Investor Says the AI Boom Isn’t the Next Dot-Com Crash How the U.S. Stacks Up to China’s ‘Engineering State’ Let us know what you think of the show. Email us at [email protected]. Sign up for the WSJ's free Technology newsletter. Read Christopher Mims’s Keywords column. Read Tim Higgins’s column.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Deloitte expects the space economy to reach $2 trillion by 2035.

0:04.6

Jason Garzatus, CEO of Deloitte U.S., says that growth is fueled by data and its application

0:09.6

for businesses across industries.

0:11.3

What's exciting is that the data and the analytic and the commercial application of the data

0:16.1

will move to be more mainstream.

0:18.7

It will be something that organizations of any size can benefit from the data that's being

0:23.0

emitted from space that could be pertinent to their operation.

0:25.8

Visit Deloitte.com to learn how the space economy is creating new opportunities.

0:30.2

Before we get into it, this is a message for all those bold-named fanatics who aren't just my

0:35.9

mother.

0:36.5

We need your help because we're cooking up something great.

0:39.6

Yeah, this is your chance to ask us questions directly.

0:43.0

So all the juicy material that ends up on the cutting room floor,

0:46.5

you can ask us, you know, what did people tell us when their mics were off, for example?

0:50.9

Send us those burning questions via selfie video or voice memo to bold names at wsj

0:58.1

dot com or you could just email us those questions we might use it on a future episode

1:03.1

just in advance i want to thank everybody and i cannot wait to see what we get

1:08.4

hey listeners tim higgins wait to see what we get.

1:18.1

Hey listeners, Tim Higgins here from Bold Names, hoping you're having an amazing Thanksgiving weekend.

1:18.9

We've got a special episode for you this week.

1:21.5

That's right, Tim.

1:22.4

We talk a lot on this show about the AI race between the U.S. and China. Our colleague Jessica Mendoza

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