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Biden’s Antitrust Architect on How Big Tech Threatens U.S. Prosperity

Bold Names

The Wall Street Journal

Technology

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Are we becoming a nation mined for our money, data, and attention? Author and legal scholar Tim Wu certainly thinks so. A key architect of President Joe Biden’s antitrust policy, Wu joins WSJ’s Christopher Mims and Tim Higgins on Bold Names to explain how a handful of tech platforms conquered the economy and why he fears Silicon Valley could become “inefficient, bloated, and bested by foreign competitors,” if the country doesn’t rein in monopoly power. Wu shares insights from his new book, “The Age of Extraction,” which maps out a path toward restoring competition and rebuilding an economy that works for everyone.   To watch the video version of this episode, visit our WSJ Podcasts YouTube channel or the video page of WSJ.com.  Check Out Past Episodes: The World’s Tech Giants Are Running Out of Power. This CEO Plans to Deliver. Why This Investor Says the AI Boom Isn’t the Next Dot-Com Crash Inside Visa’s Tech-Charged Future: From Crypto to AI Condoleezza Rice on Beating China in the Tech Race: 'Run Hard and Run Fast  Let us know what you think of the show. Email us at [email protected].  Sign up for the WSJ's free Technology newsletter.  Read Christopher Mims’s Keywords column. Read Tim Higgins’s column.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:07.2

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0:12.5

But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy.

0:18.0

Find out how Mac can help you run and grow your business at apple.com forward slash hello vet.

0:26.0

Before we get into it, this is a message for all those bold name fanatics who aren't just my mother.

0:32.5

We need your help because we're cooking up something great.

0:35.3

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0:38.9

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0:42.3

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Send us those burning questions via selfie video or voice memo to bold names at WSJ.com,

0:53.8

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on a future episode. Just in advance, I want to thank everybody and I cannot wait to see what we get.

1:06.4

You open your new book talking about an Appalad from the spring of 2024 that you called

1:13.6

extraordinary. Can you describe it for me?

1:16.6

It consisted of all the paraphernalia of human creativity, a piano, art brushes, other musical instruments,

1:24.6

all being crushed by a giant kind of press-like device.

1:29.4

It was all of sort of human achievement and cultural production,

1:34.2

all produced and crushed into one tiny little thing.

1:37.7

You know, Freud once said that jokes are always that which tell us what we really mean.

1:42.2

And on our time, I think it's advertisements.

1:44.5

And the truth revealed was the sense that the very nature of humanity is being extracted

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