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Special Series: Racial Bias and Pulse Oximeters Part 2—What Went Wrong?

Public Health On Call

The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

News, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.6644 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

About this episode:

Pulse oximeters—devices used to read blood oxygen levels in hospitals and at home—are far less reliable for people with darker skin tones. Falsely normal readings have the potential for clinical staff to miss life-threatening conditions.

In this three-episode special series, we explore a longstanding issue that only caught the nation's attention in recent years. In episode 2: What went wrong, including inaction from manufacturers and regulators, market forces, and racism in medicine that goes beyond this one device.

Listen to Part 1: A Problem Hiding in Plain Sight.

Listen to Part 3: Fixing Pulse Oximeters.

View the transcript for this episode.

Host:

Nicole Jurmo is co-producer of the Public Health in the Field series on pulse oximeters, the associate director for public relations and communications for the Johns Hopkins Center for Communication Programs, and a current MPH student. She recently completed a practicum with the Public Health On Call podcast.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Public Health On Call, a podcast from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health,

0:05.9

where we bring evidence, experience, and perspective to make sense of today's leading health challenges.

0:16.3

If you have questions or ideas for us, please send an email to public health question at jh.h.u.

0:23.6

That's public health question at jh.g.u.org for future podcast episodes.

0:30.6

Hi, I'm Lindsay Smith Rogers, and welcome back to our special series exploring racial bias in pulse oxymetry.

0:36.6

In the first episode of the series,

0:38.3

we looked into the history of the pulse oxymeter as we know it today, a device that has been

0:42.6

shown for decades to misread oxygen levels in patients with darker skin tones. We do recommend

0:48.2

that you listen to the first episode, linked in the show notes, before this one. But just to recap,

0:53.7

pulse oxymeters are tiny sensors usually taped or clipped to a finger

0:58.0

that read a patient's oxygen levels.

1:00.0

These devices, which play an essential role in patient monitoring,

1:04.0

rely on the passage of light to determine oxygen saturation.

1:08.0

Because the design of these instruments makes them susceptible to differences in skin tone,

1:12.6

pulse oxymoters perform differently in people from different racial and ethnic groups,

1:16.6

depending on their skin tone.

1:18.6

Specifically, for people with darker skin, the results are much more likely to be erroneous,

1:23.6

potentially falsely reassuring clinicians that a patient is getting enough oxygen when, in fact, they are not.

1:31.3

And a note on language.

1:33.3

These inaccurate readings are rooted in skin tone, not race.

1:37.3

So a light-skinned black person may get a significantly more reliable reading than someone with more melanated skin.

1:44.6

But because of this issue's disproportionate impact on Black people,

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