5 • 715 Ratings
🗓️ 17 November 2025
⏱️ 11 minutes
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Moving chaos, forgotten boxes, and the universal struggle of figuring out where the bathroom is in a new place somehow turn into the perfect setup for a smart chat about a wildly overlooked email tactic. You’ll hear how adding a simple animated gif can lift clicks, stop the scroll, and make your emails feel more alive, all thanks to the always blunt brilliance of Jay Schwedelson and the ever-game-for-any-topic energy of Daniel Murray.
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Best Moments:
(01:01) Jay admits he’d help Daniel move but really, absolutely would not
(01:43) Daniel predicts the inevitable two-week unpacking saga
(03:00) Daniel breaks down why gifs instantly stop the scroll
(03:32) Jay explains how animated gifs lift click rates by about 20 percent
(05:00) Daniel shares how to turn video moments into compelling gif teasers
(07:40) Jay reminds everyone that AI makes creating gifs ridiculously simple
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to a new special series called The Bathern Brin. |
| 0:11.0 | That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both. |
| 0:17.0 | But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. |
| 0:19.0 | This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the marketing millennials and me, Jay Schwettleson, from the |
| 0:24.7 | Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. |
| 0:27.5 | Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics. |
| 0:32.4 | And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine. |
| 0:34.8 | Just don't tell us about it. |
| 0:36.1 | Thanks for checking it out. |
| 0:39.4 | We are back for the bathroom break. I'm here with Daniel Murray from the Marky Millennials. |
| 0:43.9 | I'm Jay Schwettleson from Do This, Not That. And this is a big week for Daniel. |
| 0:47.8 | Because Daniel is moving. He texts me because I'm moving, which is always a subtle opening of like, |
| 0:53.2 | hey, do you want to help me move |
| 0:54.3 | because we live sort of near each other and I literally texted back I would help you but I don't |
| 1:00.2 | want to he did it's a legit I have proof he texts me that and then I said I replied back that |
| 1:07.1 | when people ask someone to ask over 30 years old to move, it's like, hey, here's a free |
| 1:15.0 | lunch, but also you get back surgery as you're present as well. So I would never ask Jay to |
| 1:20.5 | have me. No way. No, nothing with boxes. Anything with boxes is a hard note. Are you a good |
| 1:26.1 | packer? Are you good at packing? |
| 1:28.3 | No, horrible. R is a horrible packer too. We're like horrible at doing it. So it's going to be a |
| 1:34.8 | mess. It's going to be a mess. I want to know a period of time. Will there be a box that |
| 1:39.2 | remains stuff within a box for at least six months after you move um no but it would take it like a tug |
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