Special Operations Pirate Hunters & Exposing Crime on the High Seas (with Ian Urbina)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9 • 648 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Today’s guest is Ian Urbina. He is a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist who left The New York Times in 2019 to start The Outlaw Ocean Project. The Project’s mission is to produce ”investigative stories about human rights, environment and labor concerns on the two-thirds of the planet covered by water.” On today’s show, he and Andy discuss investigating murder on the open ocean, forced labor on fishing vessels, the special operations veterans who now hunt pirates, and more. You can learn more about his work at https://www.theoutlawocean.com/ SPONSORS: Change Agents is presented by Montana Knife Company. Use CODE "CHANGEAGENTS10" for 10% off your first order at ⁠https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/⁠ MTNTOUGH Go to ⁠https://mtntough.com⁠ and enter code CHANGE to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. Four Branches Bourbon Check out their story at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.fourbranches.com⁠⁠⁠ and pick up a bottle of their fine bourbon today. Use the code “IRONCLAD10” to get 10% off. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:40.9	And so it was a video, it was 11-minute video of a slow-motion slaughter.
0:46.6	You know, anywhere from 9 to 15, depending on your tally, guys that are shot, they're in the water. The guys firing are on one, maybe two,
1:00.7	what turned out to be Taiwanese two of the long line vessels. Semi-automatic weapons
1:07.4	turned out after the investigation that these were private maritime security guys working on behalf of captain.
1:12.1	But at some, at one point, one of the captains actually took the gun and hit one of the guys himself.
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