Hey, Trumpcast listeners. This week I joined what next to the new daily news podcast from

Slade to talk about something that continues to dominate American politics and unfortunately

President Trump's Twitter feed, the crisis at the border and Mexico. To understand what's

happening in Mexico, you have to look at the policies and leaders on both sides of the

border. I joined what next to explain how Mexico's new president, Andres Manolopes

Oberador has changed his approach to refugees and migrants fleeing north. And how he has changed

himself. I hope you enjoy this episode of what next I love the show. Each week they

go deep on one story, they give context to the news and when I listen, I feel like I've

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Whenever I see a report about immigration these days, I keep hearing this phrase breaking

point.

Meanwhile, the southern border is already at a breaking point you have heard. And they

said the agency has quote arrived at the breaking point. We have a port that is stretched

to a breaking point.

Sometimes this idea, this breaking point, it's illustrated by these terrible images, pictures

of detained families kept behind some fencing under a bridge in Alpasso, Texas. But it turns

out this breaking point, it looks remarkably similar on both sides of the border.

Well, I visited Tijuana when the caravan crisis exploded and what I found was tragic.

León Crasso writes for slate, hosts Trumpcast, and he grew up in Mexico.

People were gathered at this sports complex just a few feet from the border, within a small

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