Special Guest Malcolm Gladwell

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 18 November 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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In a time when Twitter is the main source of information for many people, Malcolm Gladwell remains on a near-celebrity status by doing the exact opposite: publishing lengthy, thought-provoking examinations of human behaviors and, most recently, historic events. His name is regularly etched in the New York Times best seller list, the podcast company he heads garners millions of listens, and theories from his books are often mentioned by politicians, academics and just regular readers. That includes our hosts, who are very honored to switch things up and have Gladwell on Unholy this week! The rockstar of American journalism (who is actually a UK-born Canadian), credited with the popularization of non-fiction, joins Yonit and Jonathan for a talk about, well, lots of things. How social media gave a platform to unhinged voices, which version of success complies with his Menonite upbringing, why humanity is actually more equipped to handle its problems than we think, and that one time he ruined a friendship over a song - tune in to hear all this, plus more anecdotes, impressions and even an analysis of ‘chutzpah’. -- Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unholypodcast/and X: https://x.com/2jewsonthenewsJoin our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150578065793142 Subscribe to our blog: https://unholypodcast.substack.com/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0	This podcast is brought to you by Cyber Attacks Can Be Prevented.
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0:18.9	Hi, I'm Unite Levy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.
0:22.0	And I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.
0:25.0	And this week, after two very dense episodes with two different elections, two different places in the world, we thought of something different.
0:35.0	A little deeper intellectual conversation, Jonathan?
0:38.1	And also a little kind of escape in a way. I mean, just we, people need, you know, this is our
0:42.7	idea of escapism. It's a slightly nerdy idea of escapism. But I think people need a little bit of
0:47.9	respite. Let's use that word. It's a bit of respite from the sort of clamour and day-to-day intensity of the news for a slightly more thoughtful conversation taking several steps back and thinking in the sort of bigger sweep of things, rather than just the immediate storm and dangle of now.
1:08.0	So let's get right to our special guest.
1:21.7	Malcolm Gladwell is the best-selling author of seven books.
1:23.4	They hardly need listing. Their titles alone have entered the language and the culture, blink, outliers, the tipping point.
1:29.9	Most recently, the bomber mafia. He's host of the revisionist history podcast. And I'm going to guess
1:38.3	perhaps the only Canadian who has mastered the Israeli pronunciation of the word chutzpah.
1:46.8	That's my failed British attempt.
1:51.6	He's also the co-founder of Pushkin Industries who make the revisionist history podcast and made not only the foreign policy magazines list of global thinkers, but the Time
1:58.3	magazine 100 Influentials list, which is the place you really
2:03.5	want to be. Malcolm Gladwell, welcome to Unholy. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here.
2:09.5	And such a pleasure and a privilege to have you on. Thank you. I kind of want to start with
2:14.2	the issue of success, Malcolm. And you come from a Mennonite community. You
2:19.1	describe that as a small community devoted to service and reconciliation. They don't do honorifics,
2:25.0	you say. And you write about how we sometimes overlook how liberating is when culture abandons
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