The So, The Hello I'm Ryan Stitt and welcome back to the history of ancient Greece.

We are taking a break from a regularly scheduled programming

for another special guest episode in a series where I converse with classicists

and ancient historians about either books or articles that they have published,

their current research interests, or just unique classes and topics they are teaching

and exploring further. In today's special guest episode I am joined by Dr. Curtis Dozier, assistant professor of Greek

and Roman studies at Vassar College.

He is the producer and host of The Mirror of Antiquity, a podcast featuring classical

scholars discussing the intersections of their research, the contemporary world, and their own lives.

More importantly to our discussion, he is also the director of Ferros, doing justice to the classics, a website devoted to

documenting and responding to appropriations of ancient Greece and Rome by hate groups

online. We discuss some of the reasons how, as well as why, white supremacist have taken to co-opting classical

imagery to support their twisted world views.

So without further ado, here's my discussion with Dr. Curtis Dozier.

Yeah, I'm Curtis Dozier.

I teach in the Department of Greek and Roman studies at Vassar College

in Poughkeepsie, New York.

I've taught here for 12 years now. And back in 2017, I

launched my website called Ferros, Doing Justice to the Classics, which you can find online at

Doing Justice to the Classics.org, Ferros Classics.org.

So why did you choose Ferros?

Obviously that Parkins to the White House of Alexandria, right?

...