SPECIAL EPISODE: Gallant Strikes (Again) - with Nadav Eyal

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

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Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

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🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Last night, Israel time, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant took the exceptional step of publicly declaring his view that the current war trajectory is leading to one of two scenarios in Gaza: Hamas rules Gaza OR the IDF rules Gaza - both, Gallant says, are catastrophic outcomes. Gallant set an ultimatum for Prime Minister Netanyahu by saying that he would oppose Israeli military rule in Gaza, signaling that this is his red line and he blamed Netanyahu for what Gallant believes is a lack of a post-war plan. In this special episode, we asked Nadav Eyal to: A. Analyze Gallant's dramatic speech. B. Discuss what this means for the war, and C. Where this could lead politically. NADAV EYAL is a columnist at Yediiot. Eyal is one of Israel’s leading journalists, and a winner of the Sokolov Prize, Israel’s most prestigious journalism award. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news. He received a master’s degree from the London School of Economics and a law degree from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

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0:00.0	What Galat is showing in these actions is a lot of political courage and he gives the impression of a person
0:08.3	that has no political calculations because he knows to an extent that his career is over.
0:14.7	This kind of person in a political sphere can be extremely dangerous for the leadership of the
0:19.7	Prime Minister.
0:27.0	And I'm pleased to welcome back to this podcast, Nadaverial from Yidiut for a special time sensitive episode.
0:37.1	We are dropping this outside of our normal schedule.
0:40.5	Earlier this morning, really early, we released an important episode with Dr.
0:44.8	Tall Becker, and I just want to urge everyone who hasn't listened to that episode
0:49.7	with Tall Becker to be sure to do so. It's an extremely insightful episode in its own right.
0:56.1	In fact, Dada, you know Ta. Taubaker is really one of the finest people who ever served in the Israeli foreign office and he did an incredible
1:05.4	job in the Hague talking with the ICJ as you discussed in that chapter Dan and I think it's an incredibly insightful peace and I urge everyone to listen.
1:18.0	Thanks I agree he's incredibly thoughtful guy and look forward to having him back on.
1:24.3	Nadev, the news broke yesterday with the defense minister of Galan's speech.
1:28.7	It was last night Israel Time that he dropped, you know, it's a little bit of a political earthquake.
1:33.7	We can discuss debate whether or not it actually is at the feet of the Prime Minister
1:38.3	saying that the current trajectory that Israel is on with regard to Gaza is leading to one of two scenarios.
1:46.4	One is Hamas continues to rule Gaza, so it is, you know, kind of Hamas Stan, some version of what existed before October 7th, or Israeli
1:56.4	military rule for the near medium term, perhaps even long term, some form of
2:01.0	military occupation or reoccupation, which is what I was
2:04.7	pressing Prime Minister Netanyahu on in our conversation that we recorded on Sunday.
2:08.6	And according to Galant, both of these are unacceptable and both of these scenarios would be catastrophic politically and would be catastrophic from an Israeli security perspective.
2:20.4	And so it appeared that Minister Galant sent an ultimatum to the Prime Minister by saying that he,
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