Israeli Independence - with Dr. Tal Becker

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

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🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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HOUSEKEEPING NOTE: The first "Call Me Back" Live Event will take place on Monday June 3 at 6:00 pm at the Comedy Cellar in New York City. At the event -- which will ultimately be posted as an episode -- we will be talking to Michael Rapaport about the crisis of antisemitism in America and what it means for Israel and for American Jews. Partial proceeds for the event will go to Lev Echad ("One Heart"), an Israeli non-profit organization that has been doing indispensable work, especially since 10/07. To RSVP, please go to comedycellar.com, click the lineups button on the top left and select June 3. (There will also be an opportunity for audience questions and discussion following the formal conversation, and an extended smaller private event afterwards for those interested.) TODAY'S EPISODE: As Independence Day was winding down in Israel, I sat down for a conversation with Tal Becker in Jerusalem to discuss the deep uncertainty in Israeli society: we don’t know when or if the hostages will return home, we don’t when or if Hamas will be defeated, or even when or if the 100,000 displaced Israelis will return to their homes in the South and in the North. We don't know if a war with Hezbollah is next, and we certainly don’t know if and what could be a long term solution for the Palestinian conflict with Israel or Iran’s conflict with Israel. Dr. Tal Becker serves as a senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem and was the former Legal Adviser of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is a veteran member of successive Israeli peace negotiation teams and, most recently, represented Israel before the International Court of Justice and played an instrumental role in negotiating and drafting the historic peace and normalization agreements (the "Abraham Accords"). Dr. Becker earned his doctorate from Columbia University in New York City, and is the recipient of numerous scholarly awards, including the Rabin Peace Prize, and the Guggenheim Prize for best international law book for his book "Terrorism and the State".

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0:00.0	In a way, Zionism or Israel is the refusal to be a victim.
0:04.1	It is the idea that victimhood is not a virtue, it's a condition.
0:09.2	It is the desire to emerge from it.
0:11.6	And our goal in the discourse with Palestinians in particular is not to have
0:16.4	this zero-sum contest of who is more of a victim and who is more of a villain, but to figure
0:21.2	out how we both emerge from this without our victimhood as an essential
0:25.8	part of our identity. It's 8 a 3 p.m. on Wednesday, May 15th here in New York City. It's 3 p.m. on May 15th in Israel, the first day after Israel's Independence Day that followed
0:47.4	Memorial Day, Memorial Day and Independence Day like no other. We will get to today's episode in a moment, but before we do two
0:54.9	housekeeping notes. First, I am announcing the first call me back live event.
1:00.4	Very much looking forward to this. I'll be talking at this live event to Michael Rappaport about the crisis of
1:07.0	anti-Semitism in America and what it means for Israel and for American Jews.
1:12.1	Michael's own story, his own post-October 7th story is quite riveting and
1:17.6	we'll be diving into that as well. The event is on June 3rd at 6 p.m. in New York City at the comedy cellar that's June 3rd
1:27.2	6 p.m. in New York City at the comedy cellar our friends over the comedy cellar
1:30.9	who have been champions for our podcast have been
1:34.3	enthusiastic about hosting a live event there. I hope you're able to come and join us.
1:39.5	There's a small number of VIP tickets in addition to the regular tickets which are available for people who want to stay after the event and ask Michael and me some additional questions and we may have another special guest from the call me back cast if you will in the
1:56.7	program.
1:57.7	Proceeds for the event will go to Lev Echad which is an amazing organization in Israel that has been doing extraordinary work
2:05.7	filling a lot of the holes and gaps in the civilian side of support for Israel post October 7th.
2:11.9	I encourage you to look up this organization. Leavachad, which support for
2:15.0	the Israel post-October 7th. I encourage you to look up this organization,
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