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The Daily

Special Edition: The Fall of Steve Bannon

The Daily

The New York Times

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4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2017

⏱️ 17 minutes

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After a week in which the president bolstered white nationalists, why did he end it by getting rid of Stephen K. Bannon, the crusader in the White House for the so-called alt-right? Guest: Maggie Haberman, who covers the White House. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily.

0:07.0

Today, a special edition of the show after a historic week in which the

0:13.4

president bolsters the alt-right and white nationalist. Why does he end the week

0:18.4

by getting rid of Steve Vannon, the alt-right crusader in his White House?

0:25.4

It's Friday afternoon, August 18th.

0:31.4

Maggie Abramann, this seems like a shocking end to this week in particular.

0:37.8

The president has outraged much of the country with his comments about the

0:43.4

protesters in Charlottesville and his statement that some of them are fine

0:48.4

people and that seems like a big victory in a sense for Steve Vannon.

0:56.4

Potentially the biggest realization of his vision in this presidency and yet on the last day of the week,

1:03.4

Steve Vannon is out. So what is going on?

1:08.4

It's an excellent question, Michael, and thank you for having me. This has been a bit of a crazy day.

1:13.4

There are a couple of different versions of this story going around.

1:16.4

In one version, we have White House officials who don't like Steve Vannon, saying that the president

1:21.4

had wanted to fire him for several weeks around the time he fired Ryan's

1:24.4

previs that he was talked out of it by several people and that General

1:29.4

John Kelly, who replaced Ryan's previs as chief of staff, had been, quote,

1:33.4

unquote, evaluating the tenure. Vannon has told people close to him that he

1:37.4

offered his resignation on August 7th to go into effect on August 14th, except that it was delayed

1:42.4

because of Charlottesville. That's not, I think, accurate. As I understand it,

1:47.4

there's a third way here, which is there was some deal between the president and Vannon

1:51.4

for Vannon to leave late last week. And that deal was,

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