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The Daily

Friday, Aug. 18, 2017

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2017

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

They posted hate speech and Hitler emojis. They also organized a rally in Charlottesville, Va., connecting several major white supremacy groups for an intimidating display of force. How white supremacists and neo-Nazis used their favorite social networks to craft and propagate their messages — at least until they were barred from the platform. Guest: Kevin Roose, who writes about technology for The Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is the day.

0:08.7

Today, it let them be anonymous, use hate speech and post emojis of Hitler.

0:15.8

It also let them plan the rally in Charlottesville.

0:19.8

How white supremacists and neo-Nazi millennials used their favorite social network before they were kicked off.

0:30.8

It's Friday, August 18th.

0:38.8

How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?

0:42.8

Are we going to take down the statue because he was a major slave owner. Now we're going to take down his statue.

0:49.8

So you know what? It's fine. You're changing history, you're changing culture, and you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazi.

0:56.8

On Tuesday evening, while the president was giving his off-the-cuff remarks from Trump Tower on the violence in Charlottesville,

1:04.8

my colleague Kevin Rus signed into a website called Discord and watched while white supremacists and neo-Nazis responded in real time.

1:16.8

Let's see. We've got one guy named, it's like a long German name, Reich's Biblioteckar Sven, who says, I love how Trump actually defended us.

1:28.8

Glorious. Another guy says, I want white supremacy, but it's a real turn-off to normies and their votes. We just got to get more subtle about it.

1:39.8

And then he says, Trump is now our guy again.

1:43.8

Wow.

1:47.8

So how do you know all this? How are you able to actually see these responses?

1:51.8

For the last few months, I've been embedded in a number of right-wing and alt-right Discord servers.

2:00.8

I've been able to access to their sort of inter-sanked chat rooms, so I could read what these guys are talking about when they think no one else is watching.

2:11.8

Let me ask you about Discord, because I went and googled it, and it says, Free Voice and Text Chat for gamers.

2:22.8

Yeah. So Discord started as a chat app for people who play video games. It was like where you would go to talk with your warcraft teammates and talk about strategy and stuff.

2:34.8

But several months ago, the alt-right and white nationalists discovered that, hey, this is a pretty secure platform. It allows us to be anonymous.

2:44.8

So this is a really good place for them to craft and disseminate their message and organize their movement.

2:51.8

Talk me through the first time that you got into one of these groups, these servers.

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