Special Edition: Noah Efron on the Awful Quiet of This Moment
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🗓️ 10 October 2023
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
This morning, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes connected with his old friend Noah Efron about the weekend's events in Israel. Noah is a professor at Bar-Ilan University, a prolific essayist and writer, and the host of The Promised Podcast, a podcast on Israeli life, politics, and culture.
In an interview punctuated twice by missile attacks, they discussed what happened over the weekend, the magnitude and horror of the Hamas attack, the impact on Israeli society, and the coming Israeli response in Gaza. They talked about the weird interregnum between the violence over the weekend and the violence that's to come and how quiet things are right now, about whether Israeli society is coming together or whether it is coming apart, about the implications of Hamas holding many hostages for the way the war is going to play out, and more.
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| 0:29.0 | They load up these kids and old people and people in between who are going to be |
| 0:39.0 | hostages from age under two to over nine years old. They load them up into |
| 0:44.0 | jeeps and onto the backs of motorcycles and they drive back through the same |
| 0:48.0 | holes they made 14 or 16 or 18 hours later that are still unattended by the |
| 0:54.0 | idea. I'm Benjamin with us and this is the law fair podcast special edition |
| 1:01.0 | October 10th 2023. This morning I woke up and connected with my old friend Noah |
| 1:10.0 | Efron about the weekend's events in Israel. Noah is a professor at BariLan |
| 1:16.0 | University. He is a prolific essayist and writer and he is the host of the |
| 1:24.0 | promised podcast one of my favorite podcasts on Israeli life politics and culture. |
| 1:31.0 | In an interview punctuated twice by missile attacks we discussed what had |
| 1:38.0 | happened over the weekend. The magnitude and horror of the Hamas attack, the |
| 1:44.0 | impact on Israeli society and the coming Israeli response in Gaza. We talked |
| 1:52.0 | about the weird interregnum between the violence over the weekend and the |
| 1:57.0 | violence that's to come and how quiet things are right now. We talked about |
| 2:02.0 | whether Israeli society is coming together or whether it is coming apart and |
| 2:10.0 | we talked about the implications of Hamas holding many hostages for the way the |
| 2:15.0 | war is going to play out and a lot of other things. It's the law fair podcast |
| 2:21.0 | special edition Noah Efron on the awful quiet of this moment. So Noah I want |
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