Today is Saturday, May 9th, the day before Mother's Day. And while, of course, it's a time for appreciation and celebration, it can also, for a lot of moms, come with some mixed feelings, like, I love my family and should it be this hard? Today, we're talking about what the data shows, about the pressures of modern motherhood, and how to make sure joy is still on the to-do list. Our guest is Dr. Corinne Lowe.

She's an associate professor of business economics and public policy at the Wharton School of

the University of Pennsylvania. And her book is called Having It All, what data tells us about

women's lives and getting the most out of yours. We talk about everything from the surprising data

on the time women and men spend with their kids today compared to decades ago, to the ways families can think about outsourcing help, to how even overwhelmed moms, whether they work outside of the house or stay at home, can find more moments for themselves.

Welcome to the Newsworthy special edition Saturday, when we sit down with a different expert or celebrity every Saturday to talk about something in the news.

Don't forget to tune in every Monday through Friday for our regular episodes where we provide all the day's news in less than 15 minutes.

I'm Erica Mandy. It's now time for today's special edition Saturday.

Corinne Lo, thank you so much for joining us here on The Newsworthy.

And thank you, Erica.

Happy to be here.

So Mother's Day is often full of, you know, flowers and brunch and appreciation, and that is

definitely lovely.

But for a lot of moms, it can also bring up this kind of complicated feeling of, I love my family, but I'm also pretty exhausted.

So when you look at the data, what does it tell us about why so many women feel this tension?

Yeah, it tells us that what she wants is a nap.

She wants a nap for Mother's Day.

Yes, so there are these structural forces that are making moms and especially working moms more squeezed than ever. What we've seen is that gender roles have converged at work, but they haven't converged at home. So women who stepped into the workplace find themselves winning the bread and baking it too. And then you add to this the fact that the time we spent with our kids

has doubled over the span of a generation. I grew up in the 1980s. So, you know, my bedtime

routine was go to bed. Right. But every parent listening knows the stories and the socio-emotional

processing, right, and the laying there and kind of army crawling out.

That is a mode of parenting that didn't exist 30 years ago.

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