I start digging through a dresser.

And because I, I, I started living with him full time, like when I was 14.

Yeah.

And I found some old fucking track spikes, like old.

Oh, wow.

With, like, big spikes on them.

They were definitely for a cinder track.

And I come downstairs.

And I was, you know, I was always a sprinter and

ran track and I'm like dad what are these because yeah I wore those at University

of Oregon he's like those were made by Bill Bowerman's wife in the waffle iron

and and right so I'm 15 like I don't have a concept of what he's saying to me now of

course and I said can I wear what he's saying to me. No, of course.

And I said,

well, can I wear these?

He's like,

no.

And so he says,

go put them back up.

Yeah.

And so,

you know,

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