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Earth Ancients

Special Edition: Dr. Avi Loeb, Alien Probe, 3i/Atlas

Earth Ancients

Cliff Dunning

Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Science

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

A Harvard astronomer is suggesting that an interstellar object nearing Earth could be an engineered object — rather than a natural one — after making similar claims in in 2023 and 2017.Avi Loeb, the chair of Harvard's astronomy department, told CNN on Thursday that the 31/ATLAS interstellar object detected by the Deep Random Survey remote telescope in Chile could have an alien origin."The brightness of the object implies a diameter of 20 km, and there is not enough rocky material in interstellar space to deliver such a giant object per decade," Loeb said.

He noted that it takes "10,000 years for that much mass to arrive to the inner part of the solar system."Loeb also said that the object will be closest to the Earth when our planet is on the opposite side of the sun, meaning we won't be able to actually see it.

"We won't be able to observe it, but that's the perfect time for it to maneuver, and so we just need to watch it," he said.
He went on to say he thinks there's a chance that the object could be engineered rather than naturally occurring."I'm not saying it's an alien technology," Loeb said. "I'm just saying it doesn't look like a very common thing, and actually, the glow that is around this object, usually for comets, you see a trailing tail behind the object and here the glow from the Hubble Space Telescope image is actually in front of the object."

The astronomer said that "we've never seen such a thing" and noted that a comet wouldn't "have glow in front of it."He argued that it’s prudent for humanity to examine any interstellar objects entering our solar system, just to be sure they’re harmless.

“[31/ATLAS] may come to save us or destroy us,” he said. “We'd better be ready for both options and check whether all interstellar objects are rocks.”31/ATLAS made news in July after scientists confirmed it originated outside of our solar system, making it one of only three known interstellar objects discovered in our little slice of space.The object is massive, with scientists estimating it is more than 12 miles wide.Loeb theorizing a more enigmatic origin of the object isn't exactly off-brand for him. In 2023 he made headlines after he and a team recovered a meteor that fell into the Pacific Ocean. He claimed at the time that an analysis found previously unseen metal alloys in the rock, suggesting at very least an origin outside of our solar system, but other astrophysicists were skeptical of those claims.Back in 2017, Oumuamua, a long, rod-like object, became the first known interstellar object detected in our solar system.

Loeb released a paper in 2021 exploring the idea that the strange object — which about the length of a football field but only as thick as a common cigar — was possibly using a "light sail" that captures the sun's energy as a means of propulsion.He was essentially suggesting that Oumuamua could have been crafted by aliens or some other intelligence.

n 2023, researchers published a study that found the object's strange orbit and apparent propulsion was actually achieved through a mechanism found in many icy comets. Essentially, hydrogen was being released from the object as it was warmed by the sun's heat.“For a comet several kilometers across, the outgassing would be from a really thin shell relative to the bulk of the object, so both compositionally and in terms of any acceleration, you wouldn’t necessarily expect that to be a detectable effect,” UC Berkeley assistant professor of chemistry Jennifer Bergner said at the time. “But because Oumuamua was so small, we think that it actually produced sufficient force to power this acceleration.”

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Cliff, your host. This is a special edition of Earth Ancients.

0:23.4

And we have Dr. Avi Loeb joining us to Harvard astrophysicist

0:29.1

because he has been in the news.

0:32.0

And we have a direct line to his lab.

0:34.6

And whenever he shows up in the news, he was in USA Today on CNN and he's been on a lot of TV.

0:41.6

We had to get a hold of him immediately. And what's going on is there's an alien probe known as,

0:48.2

it's been identified and classified as three eye atlas, the letter I, 3-I Atlas. And this is another Amawa-Mawa kind of asteroid that appears to be

1:04.0

self-directed, appears to be coming from an ancient civilization outside of our cosmos is entering our cosmos. And what's a little

1:15.4

unnerving is that the hypothesis from this laboratory, from the scientific team, is that that

1:24.4

it is heading our way. And I don't want to frighten anybody, but it's one of those situations where we just don't know.

1:35.1

And there's so much to talk about.

1:38.5

We're going to unload quite a bit of data today.

1:42.1

But the most important thing, and why I have Dr. Loeb on the program

1:47.7

fairly regularly is the fact that he is, without a doubt, the most transparent scientists out

1:55.0

there right now. And he's not behoving to the government. I don't know if you guys remember

2:00.3

about five years ago

2:01.6

when he came on. He refused to sign a non-disclosure agreement with the Department of Defense.

2:10.2

And he wanted the public to know what was going on in our base, in our cosmos. And I'm not saying or suggesting that what we're going to talk about today is a UAP,

2:23.2

an unidentified aerial phenomenon.

2:26.4

It's that he is blowing the whistle on this because within his hypothesis for what this is, there are consequences

2:37.7

and defense measures that need to be appropriated if this so-called asteroid UAP comes our way.

2:51.6

So this is going to be to the point.

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