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Politics Unpacked

Special: don't mention independence with the SNP

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News, Politics, News & Politics

4.11.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2017

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Matt Chorley braves his fourth and final conference of the season this time with the SNP in Glasgow.He asks, have we reached, 'peak Nat', is Brexit making the case for independence harder, and with leaving the union not mentioned throughout conference, how do the SNP continue to motivate party members?The questions are put to Hamish Macdonell, Times Scottish political editor, Times columnist Alex Massie, and SNP MPs including Kirsty Blackman, Stewart McDonald and Stephen Gethins.

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0:00.0

Just imagine what your best Christmas ever would sound like.

0:03.4

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0:07.4

Yeah, I think I have. I'd just take to double check before I do a cartwheel.

0:11.1

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0:15.5

what happy Christmas why do now you have the best Christmas ever this Christmas it could be you. The National Lottery. Rules and procedures apply. Players must be 18 or over.

0:30.0

Hello and welcome to the Red Box Politics Podcast in The Times. I'm Matt Chorley.

0:37.0

This is the last in our series of specials from the party conference season.

0:42.0

I'm in Glasgow with the SMP.

0:45.0

Now that sound you can hear about is the sound of the

0:50.0

S&P delegates enjoying their lunch and no doubt talking about independence because bluntly that is what they do.

0:56.8

Although it's not officially on the menu here. One of the really striking things arriving in Glasgow

1:01.2

and thumbing through the official agenda is that none of the motions and debates

1:05.0

planned at the main conference hall mentioned independence at all.

1:09.0

Looking around the conference end of the SEC on the bank of the Clyde, There were lots of big yellow boards with a slogan

1:14.7

progress listing the many achievements of the SMP government scrapping the public

1:20.2

set a pay cap, phasing out petrol vehicles, more money for

1:24.8

schools, more money for hospitals, the new Queens Ferry crossing, votes it's 16.

1:29.4

You name it, every area... Scottish life is covered there

1:34.0

with the small exception of whether or not it stays in the union the party leadership

1:37.3

seems to have

1:38.2

tried to uh... impose the message that they are

1:41.6

not talking about independence as much they were,

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