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Okay, welcome to another special episode of Behind the Knife covering this COVID crisis.

We're lucky enough to have Dr. Charmila Dysenaeica back on the podcast today.

She's the professor in Pete C. Kenizarro, chair of surgery at Texas Tech,

and she is active in clinical surgery with the focus on critical care, trauma, and burns, and is internationally

known as a speaker in surgery.

So Dr. Desinayika, thank you for joining us again on Behind the Knife, and we're here today to talk to you about the stresses and

anxieties of trainees and surgeons and how to best manage these.

So welcome and I know this is a tough topic but thank you for helping us dive into this today.

Thank you very much for having me, Kevin.

I think it's something that we all need a little bit of help with right now.

And can you tell me how, I know you've been giving some talks on this and have a history of this what what made you interested in this and what currently kind of alerted you to this kind of crisis as far as our mental health and stress what alerted you to

this upcoming problem? Well what really started the intersection I would call

it up to aspects of my life.

I've been practicing mindfulness meditation

before I knew before it had that name actually.

When I was 11 years old because the teacher told me

meditating would help me improve my grades.

So of course I went off and did it and

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