Okay, so this is really crazy, but I wanted my listeners to get the story behind the story of this whole book because today is the day we're imperfect courage is really out into the world like if you order it on

prime you'll be getting it tomorrow and this is Netso, so so Netso.

And I really wanted my going scared listeners to get that story behind the story and I thought

well who else could interview me that has actually

lived this message with me walked with me for the past eight years through it all and of

course I thought of one of my best friends Jenny Allen.

Jenny Allen is the author of multiple books.

Hopefully you have read plenty of them and she's also one of my best friends. Our kids are from the same

orphanage in Rwanda. Cooper is her son and so you all know Jack is mine and

Jenny you encouraged me to write this book.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, it was easy because I got to watch firsthand this incredible, beautiful thing

called Noonday, E-Birtz.

And what was fun is I was launching an organization

at nearly the exact same time,

as well as we adopted our boys the same time.

So we were juggling so many different things,

but gosh, we walked through this together.

And so much of the things that you talk about in this book just, we talked about over the phone

or over coffee and it was just encouraging to see it in print, to see this story that is so powerful.

It is so powerful.

A plate laid out in this way. It's absolutely exciting and I'm so happy for you.

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