Hello, hello, hello, welcome to the naughty but nice show. I'm Rob Schueter, your host. We're going to have a special edition of the show today, a bonus

edition. We don't normally do shows over the weekend, but they're getting so many people

listening. We've got a very special one for you today. We've got a really brilliant guest,

someone I've liked for a long time, Dr. Jen Mann. You might know Dr. Jen Mann from couples

therapy or one of her wonderful books. Hey,

welcome to the show, Doc. Well, thank you so much for having me. We're really excited about it.

So love and romance. This is a celebrity show. We talk about lots of celebrities, but love and romance

is sort of part of that, too. And so we've got a ton of questions, some audience questions, some questions from me. So let's jump in. It's a little bit of participation here, Dr. Jen. I know it sounds a little odd, but that's how we do. I'm going to say, what time is it? I'm all in. We say together, it's tea time. What time is it, Dr. Jen? It's tea time. Thank you very much. So how did

all this begin for you? How did you get the gig on couples therapy? I think that's where most

people will know you from. Yeah, most people know me from couples therapy. It kind of goes back a long

way and, um, but really kind of my career as a therapist started in undergrad.

I was a journalism major. I did a story about rape on college campuses. Oh, serious. Yes. And I became

really obsessed with the topic. And I volunteered to work for the Los

Sanders Commission on Assaults Against Women as a rape and domestic violence counselor.

As soon as I started doing the therapy work, I realized I found my calling.

I started grad school.

While I was in grad school in one of my classes on eating disorders, my teacher was going

to be on TV and she said, hey, you're very outspoken. Would you come and talk about recovery issues?

So I went and I realized instead of sitting in my office and helping one person, I can potentially

help millions. And so it really became an interest in

mind. I started doing show after show. And one day I get a call from none other than Harvey Levin.

We know him from TMZ here. Yes. Exactly. What was that like when you picked up the phone? Did

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