Hello, my friends, and welcome to our practice session.

In our practice sessions, we invite our featured guests to show off their negotiation and conflict resolution skills in a realistic scenario.

In this session, I want you to pay attention to what our guest does and not to what I do, because while they are trying to show off their skills and teach you, I'm trying to frustrate their

efforts in different ways through things like aggression, annoyance, emotionality, or awkwardness.

And then after the practice session, we debrief and talk about what worked, what didn't work,

and what you can use in your next difficult conversation.

Hey, everybody, welcome back.

And we are in the sparring session.

We have Celebrity Doctor Zawade, Marshall.

We're here today.

And I'll give you the floor, Zawade, to tell us about the situation and the role you will be playing and the role I'll be playing.

Celebrity, I wish.

Tell it to my wife and kids.

Why take out the trash tonight?

I'm Dr. Zawaday Marshall.

I'm a double board certified anesthesiologist and interventional spine specialist.

I have an interventional practice in Atlanta, Georgia.

And today I'll be talking with Kwame about a fairly typical patient interaction that's

based on the chronic pain patient. And I think many of your listeners may have heard of the opioid

crisis and the fact that there are two Americans that die every hour from opioid overdoses.

It's really an epidemic that's been afflicting a lot of middle class households across the country. And in that

crisis, at the underpinning of it, are these patients who, by no fault of their own, may have had

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