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The David McWilliams Podcast

Spain Won Again, 500 Years Later

The David McWilliams Podcast

David McWilliams

News & Politics

4.6701 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Spain beat Argentina 1-0 in a scrappy, dirty World Cup final, in what felt like 500 years of history playing out on a pitch in New Jersey. We use the final as an excuse to ask the big question: why did Spain's colonies end up poor and England's end up rich? Silver, slavery, the Inquisition, and the invisible thread that still connects a Buenos Aires slum to a New Jersey kitchen.

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0:00.0

Coming up in the podcast today, I know it's a bit of a strange one, but we're looking at the World Cup.

0:04.5

We're looking at Spain. We're looking at Argentina. We're looking at North America.

0:07.5

We're going to talk about the economic history of colonialism in North, South America.

0:12.5

The differences, the legacy, and today the different consequences of different types of economic colonialism.

0:23.6

That's all coming up in a couple of minutes. To understand the economy, you have to understand human nature.

0:28.6

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0:34.6

How you doing there?

0:38.0

Welcome to the podcast on the day after the night before,

0:42.7

the night before being the World Cup final,

0:44.4

which is fair to say, John, was a little bit of a disappointment.

0:47.2

Most finals are, though, aren't they?

0:49.0

It's all the run-up stuff is the best stuff.

0:51.8

Finals always tend to over-promise and under-del deliver. And it did last night. Completely now. As you know, dear listeners, my heart was with Argentina. John and I off air, I've been having this discussion. Actually, for the last three weeks, I've always said Argentina are a great team. Yeah, there's a bit of dogs, a bit of a niggle, but you know what? They're grateful for it. But last night, I think. Yeah, they were rabbit dogs last night. They were just guriers. They just, they disgrace themselves. And it's such a shame because they have so much talent. They play with such, when they play and when they play properly, those little passes and obviously get messy, but they're like McAllister, a lot of brilliant, brilliant players. But last night, they just couldn't do anything except foul the Spaniards. And Spain were imperious. And Spain, I mean, yeah, Spain were great. The big question now for football, don't worry, guys, we're going to be on to economics in two seconds. but the big question now for football across the world, John're going to be on to economics in two seconds but the big question now for football across the world john is how do you stop spain who can

1:47.8

beat this team yeah who can beat them in the euros who can beat them in the world cup you know they

1:53.4

seem to be at a different league to everybody else you know norway can't norway okay we're going for

1:59.8

norway or kirk, one or the other.

2:02.1

Pickford, exactly.

2:03.5

Anyway, welcome to the podcast.

2:06.0

The World Cup is over.

2:08.0

But on the back of the final, between Spain, Argentina, and being played in New Jersey,

2:15.2

what we're going to give you is a sort of an economic history lesson

2:19.6

about different types of colonialism. That might sound a bit weird, but of course, during the week

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