Several weeks ago we were in the studio recording a podcast and we got done kind of turned record off, but we kept having a conversation that felt to us like it was bordering on too heavy or too much.

Right, almost to feel a hesitation to go there with some of the core things that we were then having

conversation on after the mics were turned off hesitation and then after that I

said to myself that's not fair to our listeners I don't think that is true and I don't think that's what they need in in this hour and so

it got me thinking about a way that I want to frame the Ransomed Hart podcast going forward and it goes like this.

This is a gnarly time to be a human being. This is a very, very ruthless time in history on the earth. The conditions

are practically violent on the soul.

And God cares.

He cares deeply about your soul and your humanity.

And maturity is not an option.

Maturity is our rescue.

Whole-heartedness is your safe place.

Whole-heartedness is your joy.

And so welcome, friends, to the Ransom TARP Podcast, John Eldridge, Morgan Snyder,

here for a couple of episodes,

kind of in the spirit of that, kind of in the spirit of look,

we don't want to

tip-to around things that we think would be immensely helpful for you or reserve them

you know for after we turn the mic off and we just have the conversation among ourselves.

So let me begin with a story.

Several years ago, I was invited to speak at a counseling conference, a conference for therapists.

National Conference and very honored to do so,

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