Mindfulness mode.

Because the mind is just a radio, you know, it's a receiving set.

I am not my mind. My mind is just this receiving set, the radio.

And I am the man with the hand on the dial.

Reach new heights of calm, focus and happiness.

Here on Mindfulness Mode with me, your host and mindfulness life coach,

Bruce Langford, Mindful Tribe. We are all about music today. We're talking about composing music.

We're talking about how music can move you and the mindfulness of music. We're here with a singer-songwriter who is on a mission

to serve others and help people overcome the materialistic message that's distorting modern

society. And he is the host of a podcast called Pod Songs where artists interview activists and then they write a song for good

hashtag song for good to help them with their work and so Jack is a talented singer-songwriter

and has released 12 albums over the last 20 years, eight albums in the last

year. So that is very prolific. Jack Stafford, it's so good to have you with us. Jack, are you in

mindfulness mode today? Bruce, I am now. If I wasn't before, I am now. Well, I'm sure you were before, but it's great to have you on the show. What does mindfulness mean to you, Jack?

Well, that's a great question. I've been on the, I've been asking myself that question many times. And the more times I ask it, the more times I'm mindful. This is the question. I've got, I'd like to use the fishing line technique. Your mind is a very difficult, a very slippery fish to catch. But if you hook it, you can, and you let it run, let it tire itself out. Don't break your line, reel it in when it's tired. Keep doing that. Keep pulling it in, going back and forth. And finally, your mind will come to

you and ask you, what should I be thinking? Wow, what a great way to put it. When did you first

hook that fish? I think I realized what a monster it was, what a whale until I could not avoid

it anymore. I was living in until I could not avoid it anymore.

I was living in Amsterdam and I was having, I was running a business.

I had a fashion business.

I was a musician.

I was also a writer.

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