In the new Amy and TJ podcast, news anchors Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes explore everything from current events to pop culture in a way that's informative, entertaining and authentically groundbreaking.

Join them as they share their voices for the first time. entertaining and authentically groundbreaking.

Join them as they share their voices for the first time

since making their own headlines.

This is the first time that we actually get to say,

what happened and where we are today.

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Welcome to Before breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning.

This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is about one way to keep plotting along toward a goal.

Even if the process feels discouraging or unpleasant.

You can tell yourself that someday you will be telling this story.

And all this muddling through will just be the obstacles that the

hero had to face on his journey. The outcome is certain.

What's going on now is just making the plot more interesting.

So not long ago I had a conversation with a friend who was finding dating incredibly

discouraging.

It was all the usual complaints.

People weren't who they said they were. People didn't show up or they ghosted.

I said something along the lines that dating was terrible until the moment it wasn't.

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