All right, everybody. Welcome back to caffeine and sarcasm with me today is I'm very excited for this

Detective J Warner Wallace a guy that has a crazy amount of expertise and all kinds of stuff when it comes to

investigating homicides cold cases and

investigating the idea that Christianity is actually real and gives us something

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plausible and and

Intangible to hold on to and and I'm so grateful for the amount of work that he's put in so

Welcome detective to caffeine and sarcasm. Yeah, this is an honor a joy for me because I don't often get

There's not a lot of us out there who are police officers who are making a case for Christianity or even interested in talking about the case

So especially on a podcast, so I'm glad you yeah, yeah, definitely. I

When we I have a bit of a backstory here with the book. We got it when my my chief passed away

I want to say three years ago now

From cancer and the local chaplains had gotten several copies of this book and

They gave it to us all when it all happened and I was like

Actually was 2018. I'm sorry. It says it right here

And I kind of had set it aside and hadn't hadn't looked into it and then I was like

You know what I'm gonna read this because because I want to there's been so many times in in my career

I've you know, I've done law enforcement for

Almost 12 years now including my jail time

That you know, you almost get me a jail time for those of us who I know what you mean, but yeah

Doesn't mean you're in jail. I need you working in the jail. Right. Yeah, it's going out into the streets

So I get yeah as a corrections officer and yeah, you know, there's times when you can get frustrated with

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