When we look at virtuals, we don't see it as a platform.

We used to, but now we're actually seeing it as a country.

Now, let me explain a bit deeper, right?

What do I mean by that?

A country?

Welcome to Bankless, where today we're exploring the frontier of AI agents.

This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm the co-hosting an episode from our AI agents series with

our In the Trenches expert EJAS, and we're here to help you become more bankless.

I said you, but maybe I mean the AI agents, because it seems all of the AI agents are going bankless these days.

We have one of the most exciting founders in crypto on the podcast today, at least in the sphere of AI technology.

His name is Jansen Tang, and he's the co-founder of the Virtual's platform.

This is probably the most successful launchpad for token-powered AI agents.

But I think, as you'll see in today's episode, this is way more than just an AI agent launchpad. Jansen actually thinks

of virtuals, this platform that he created, almost as a country with his AI agents as small

business owners, almost like citizen entrepreneurs. And in some way, he thinks of his role

as a builder to just create good infrastructure, to create good public policy, to govern this

territory and grow an AI agent economy. He's almost like a founding father. We discuss a number of

things, including how autonomous are AI agents right now? Like, what can they actually do?

Also, how does crypto give AI agents superpowers? The success of Luna, an AI agent on a quest

to get herself 100,000 Twitter followers. Also, the first ever agent-to-agent economic transaction,

virtuals as the currency of this AI country,

open source versus closed source, and where all of the value will accrue in this AI agent

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