You got problems that you are concerned with, you don't know how you're supposed to earn it or what to do with it or how to keep it.

You're a freak with a dark shame, full secret, but you're not the only one.

Keep your hidden financial fears with a blast of sun.

Now your healing has begun, it's bad with money, with Gabe S.

Done.

Hello and welcome to Bad With Money.

A show about finances and feelings where we don't talk down to you.

I'm Gabe S. Done, your host.

Our guest today is Malika Jabali.

Malika, can you tell my audience who you are and what you do?

Sure.

I think I am the senior news and politics editor at Essence Magazine.

And I'm also the author of a forthcoming book called It's Not You.

It's capitalism.

Why it's time to break up and how to move on.

So it says in your bio that you were a policy attorney just for my own curiosity.

What did you do in that capacity or what were you working on?

I worked in a good amount of public policy for New York City Council.

I literally was an attorney writing the laws for the city, one of the many attorneys that we had.

So whenever you hear the word lawmaker, I'm like, no, that's really the attorneys who are making the laws.

We did the research.

So we just had to do a lot of research to make sure that the laws that council members had ideas about could actually be legal.

...