Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

You may have seen a recent article in Insidehiread.com that began, Wyoming Catholic College has a lot of unusual things about it, each enough to merit a story in itself.

Wyoming Catholic is a conservative Catholic college that educates students in the great

books and Catholic tradition.

It also teaches horsemanship and banselfones on campus.

I love that.

And it turned down federal funding.

President Glenn Arbery describes the mission this way.

This college is engaged in deep ways with the agony of a culture that has lost its spiritual

center.

We're adventurous and poetic and deeply Catholic.

He likes to cite Dostoevsky in crime and punishment.

Low ceilings are bad for the soul.

The ceilings rise at Wyoming Catholic, which is located in the foothills of the Wind River Mountains,

the curriculum centers in the Western tradition.

Its Catholic identity builds upon Thomas Aquinas and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church

and engaging with God in the wilderness.

Find out more at Wyoming Catholic.edu.

We have with us today, Professor Kevin Vallier.

He is philosophy professor at Bowling Green State University. His books include liberal politics and public faith. And must politics be war,

restoring our trust in the open society? His new book extends the trust and faith issue.

It is entitled Trust in a Polarized Age out with Oxford University Press.

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