Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

You may have seen a recent article in Inside Higher Ed.com that began, Wyoming Catholic College has a lot of unusual things about it, each enough to merit a story in itself.

Wyoming Catholic is a conservative Catholic college that educates students in the great books and Catholic tradition.

It also teaches horsemanship and bansel phones on campus. I love that.

And it turned down federal funding.

President Glenn Arbery describes the mission this way.

This college is engaged in deep ways with the agony of a culture that has lost its spiritual center.

We're adventurous and poetic and deeply Catholic. He likes to cite Dostoevsky in crime and punishment.

Low ceilings are bad for the soul. The ceilings rise at Wyoming Catholic, which is located in the foothills of the

Wind River Mountains, the curriculum centers in the Western tradition. Its Catholic identity

builds upon Thomas Aquinas and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church and engaging with God

in the wilderness. Find out more at Wyoming Catholic.edu. We have with us David C. Flatto. He is Professor of Law and of Jewish Philosophy at the Hebrew

University of Jerusalem, scholar of Jewish law and philosophy as well as comparative constitutional

law and jurisprudence. He has a new book out with Harvard University Press. It's called

The Crown and the Courts, separation of powers in the early

Jewish imagination. Welcome, Professor Flato. It's great to be here. Thank you. All right. Well,

it's, this is a very strong, powerful book, deeply researched, I'll say. And maybe just first,

a biographical question. What brought you to this particular topic?

It merges different interests of mine. My background is, I did my undergrad at Yisheba University and went on to be ordained at Yisheva University.

And then I also went to law school.

I went to Columbia law.

And then I wanted to continue to pursue more advanced academic Jewish studies.

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