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Think from KERA

Soccer is expensive, but it doesn’t make money

Think from KERA

KERA

Think, Krysboyd, Kera, 071003, Society & Culture

4.7910 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Soccer has a massive following around the world. So why do teams lose money? Stefan Szymanski is professor of sport management at the University of Michigan and a leading sports economist. He joins host Krys Boyd to discuss why, with all the money and sponsorships and hype around professional soccer teams, they operate on thin margin and how “moneyball” style analytics could change the game. His book, written with co-author Simon Kuper, is “Soccernomics (2026 World Cup Edition): Why European Men and American Women Usually Winand American Men Don’t (Yet).”  

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0:00.0

2026 World Cup soccer games start today in stadiums throughout North America.

0:15.7

11 of those venues are in the U.S., including one that's been renamed Dallas Stadium for now to avoid

0:22.2

any sponsored arena branding, despite the fact that it's actually located in our lovely neighboring

0:27.1

city of Arlington, Texas. Naming weirdness aside, I can tell you, FIFA fever is real,

0:33.9

with individual tickets selling for as much as $11,000,

0:38.4

which makes it all the more surprising to learn that generally,

0:41.8

buying a soccer team seems to be a great way to lose a small fortune.

0:46.8

From KERA in Dallas, this is Think.

0:49.6

I'm Chris Boyd.

0:50.9

The sport most of the world calls football

0:53.2

has somewhere between 3 and a half and

0:55.7

four billion global fans, along with 265 million people who play in organized leagues. But as my

1:02.8

guest will explain, even the legendary team's non-sucker fans have heard of tend to take in

1:08.2

pretty modest revenues, and the majority of them earn no profit

1:11.9

most seasons, even if they're playing well. Stefan Sheminski is professor of sport management at the

1:17.9

University of Michigan and a leading sports economist. Together with Simon Cooper, he is the author of

1:23.2

the 2026 World Cup edition of the book Soccernomics, why European men and American women usually

1:30.1

win and American men don't yet. Stefan, welcome to think. Nice to be with you. You note that

1:37.7

soccer has been a little late to the game when it comes to using data to drive decision-making

1:42.9

the way that like moneyball style number crunching

1:45.7

has transformed the business and the game of baseball.

1:49.3

How was baseball primed for that by all the people who love recording box scores while

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