Pope Leo finds his voice
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🗓️ 10 June 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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The new American pope has been a very vocal critic of American foreign and domestic policy. Victor Gaetan, senior international correspondent for National Catholic Register, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss Pope Leo’s policies which have been met with ire by President Trump why he is orienting the church away from Europe and the West to be more global, and what Catholics think of him so far. His article “The Not-So-Quiet American” was published in Foreign Affairs.
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| 0:00.0 | When Pope Francis died last year, President Trump posted a meme of himself in papal garb, and a month later declared it a great honor when the College of Cardinals selected the first ever |
| 0:20.9 | U.S. born pontiff. But if the president initially imagined Pope Leo the 14th would grant |
| 0:26.9 | Vatican endorsement of everything the White House tried to do in the world, that fantasy was quickly |
| 0:32.3 | deflated. From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. |
| 0:49.7 | By April of this year, President Trump took to social media to blast Leo as weak on crime and terrible for foreign policy, to which the Pope responded in part, blessed are the peacemakers. |
| 0:58.0 | One big question, as my guest will explore with us, is whether American Catholics will take sides and, if so, where they are likely to land. |
| 1:08.3 | Victor Gaetan is Senior International correspondent for the National Catholic Register and the author of God's Diplomats, Pope Francis, Vatican Diplomacy, and America's Armageddon. |
| 1:12.6 | His article for Foreign Affairs is titled The Not So Quiet American. |
| 1:16.5 | Victor, welcome to think. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. |
| 1:23.4 | You remind us that Pope Leo kept a fairly low profile in the immediate aftermath of his election. |
| 1:30.3 | Is that customary for a new Pope to sort of take a breath and maybe figure out what sort of focus he wants to take? Right. Thank you for the question. Chris. Let me begin with the election of an American pope. How unexpected and surprising the election of an American to become the leader of the Universal Church, |
| 1:52.1 | counting 1,400 million Catholics. |
| 1:58.0 | Even the clergy, the different people, the insiders were not expecting the election of an American. |
| 2:09.2 | Why? |
| 2:10.2 | One reason is that an American would have been perceived as exposed to influence for the American government from the powerful American hegemon. |
| 2:26.3 | So because of that, Robert Prevot country of birth, the United States and his American citizenship, were de-emphasized |
| 2:38.0 | following, during and following the election. |
| 2:42.0 | He was referred to mostly as the Latin American missionary priest, although he had both, he has both United States and Peruvian citizenship. |
| 2:59.8 | But then I would take a look at the qualities, the qualifications that Father Robert Prevaux has for the position |
| 3:15.3 | of to lead the Catholic Church. As we look at his resume, he has a perfect CV for the job. He spent 11 years in |
| 3:33.1 | Peru as a missionary at a time when there was a civil war, the shining path was devastating the country, as well as the |
| 3:45.6 | then authoritarian government in response to the violence, to the acts of terrorism, has implemented many measures of recent acts of violence. |
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