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I'm not, I'm not very good at French.

No, but we've already done three languages and we're only like 10 seconds into the

podcast.

We're so European, aren't we?

Did you see Emmanuel Macron's interview?

I haven't yet. I've got that pleasure later. Why? What was it like? Well, with Andrew

Marr, you mean? Yes, with Andrew Marr. You probably weren't reacting quite the way I did.

I had a little tear in my eye, I have to say. Oh my goodness.

Because he was, yeah, don't forget, he was my politician of the year when we did the awards back over Christmas.

But he was so lucid and just generally leader-like and clear in both what he said about Brexit but also his sort of general view about his style of leadership that I felt that we had nothing to compare in the UK, I'm

afraid and it made me feel that our country was becoming even smaller on the world stage

than I previously.

What you really mean is that it made you hanker after Tony?

There was a touch of that.

He has got a certain, he has got a Tony Blair ability to express quite complicated ideas clearly.

He, I mean, obviously, I was impressed that he did the whole interview in English

and he got all the nuances and he made jokes and, you know, he was very, very clear,

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