Snowball - Episode 1: The Girl With the Dragonfly Tattoo

Deep Cover

Pushkin Industries

True Crime, History

4.3 • 3.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Ollie Wards was MC at his brother's wedding. "It was a fun party," he recalls, "kind of rowdy. But inside I had a sense of unease. I couldn't explain it." He ignored the feeling. Greg met his bride while backpacking in London. He was in his twenties and partying hard. But he always had his eye on America. He loved everything to do with the place. So, when he met a dark-haired, older, well-travelled, fast-talking Californian woman named Lezlie Manukian he says he was 'a sitting duck'.

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0:00.0	This is an I-Heart podcast.
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0:08.5	Saved free speech. He created so many different great things.
0:14.6	Before the billions, before the rockets, before the never-ending headlines.
0:21.4	I'm Jacob Silverman, and my new podcast explores the prequel to the Elon Musk era.
0:27.6	Let me tell you what you don't know about the world's most notorious billionaire.
0:32.7	Understood, The Making of Musk.
0:34.6	Available now, wherever you get your podcast.
0:43.7	Thank you. The Making of Musk. Available now wherever you get your podcasts. Pushkin.
0:46.5	Hey, this is Jake.
0:48.4	I want to let you know that I'm hard at work
0:50.7	on the next season of Deep Cover.
0:52.8	It's a crazy tale,
0:55.8	and I'm very excited to share it with you. It should be ready in the spring. But in the meantime, I've got something for you to
1:02.0	listen to. Now, it's not my story. It's from Australia, from a guy named Ollie Ward's, and it's a
1:08.1	tale that I enjoyed so much I've decided to drop the whole thing into the feed.
1:13.1	Now, look, to be clear, this is not a deep cover production. It's a limited series by the
1:18.8	Unravel podcast team and Ollie Ward's at ABC Australia that we're sharing. And here's what I love
1:25.9	about what they did, and why it feels so right for the
1:29.1	deep cover feed. It's basically a story of this lovable family from New Zealand, The Wards,
1:35.7	mom, dad, and three grown sons. Ollie, he's the youngest. Then comes along this American woman
1:42.8	named Leslie, who is a character right out of deep cover,
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