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That's So Fcked Up

Sneak Peek- Patreon Exclusive Interview: Dr. Janja Lalich, World Renowned Cult Expert

That's So Fcked Up

Ashley Love Richards

Comedy, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.5541 Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Here's a sneak peak at a Patreon exclusive interview with world renowned cult expert Dr. Janja Lalich! She had such incredible things to tell us, and we enjoyed speaking with her so thoroughly that we decided to share this preview with you! To hear the rest of the episode, and for tons of other swell exclusives, join our Patreon at patreon.com/tsfu

Ash and Cam asked Dr. Lalich all the questions about all things cults, so get ready to have some of your long awaited cult questions answered! In part two, on the Patreon, they of course also discuss the "cult of cults", Heaven's Gate. Jeepers Creepers!

Janja Lalich, Ph.D. is a researcher, author, and educator specializing in cults and extremist groups, with a particular focus on charismatic relationships, political and other social movements, ideology and social control, and issues of gender and sexuality. She has been a consultant to educational, mental health, business, media, and legal professionals, as well as having worked with current members, former members, and families of members of controversial groups.

Find Janja on her website cultresearch.org



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Audio engineering by Evette Darensbourg.

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0:00.0

Hey gang. We weren't originally planning on sharing this month's Patreon exclusive interview on the regular feed, but we loved interviewing world-renowned cult expert, Dr. Yanya Lollic. So, so much. And we just thought that there was so much amazing information that we really wanted to share a little bit with you guys.

0:21.1

So we hope that you enjoy the sneak peek.

0:24.4

That is so fucked up.

0:27.5

It's fucked up.

0:29.4

So fucked up.

0:32.4

It is just so damn fucked up.

0:37.2

That's fucked up.

0:38.3

That's fucked up.

0:40.3

Hey everybody, welcome back to the podcast.

0:45.3

This is That's So Fucked Up, a podcast about Colts, murder, and other generally fucked up stuff.

0:50.3

We're your hosts. I'm Ashley Richards.

0:52.3

And I'm Cam Dexter. And today we have with us Dr. Yanya

0:57.1

Lawlich and she is laughing at we described the show. It's a pretty interesting little description

1:04.7

we've got. But I mean, that's that's kind of it, you know, and I'm personally like really

1:08.6

obsessed with Colts in particular. So I have so

1:12.6

many questions. But just to let our listeners know a little bit, you guys will probably recognize

1:19.1

her from The Vow, Heaven's Gate, Cult of Colts on HBO. She also has several books out,

1:25.9

including escaping utopia, growing up in a cult, getting out and starting over, which came out a few years ago. And we'd love to ask you a few questions about that later. But first off, I just kind of want to jump right in. And thank you so much again for being here. And could you just tell our listeners a little bit about who you are and what you do?

1:45.7

Sure. First of all, thanks for having me. I know it's been quite a battle to nail down a date.

1:50.9

So we're finally all together. So my story starts with me having been in a cult myself back in the 70s and 80s, and it was very restrictive.

2:03.8

It was a political cult. And when I got out, I was not quite 41 years old, and I felt like a 15-year-old.

2:11.0

So I'd spent 10 years in this very closed environment. I think I had seen two movies. I was

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