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We call you co-founder of that fund?

Yeah.

My partner, Sacha Patel, and I, started at beginning of 2013. So you're a relatively recent VC prior to that. You did a bunch of things, but I went up with the first job you had, because to me it sounds like the most awesome job. What was your job? You were going to talk about shoveling snow and Long Island. But at some point, you broke free of that and you ended up in New York City working for Connor O'Brien. It's true. Yeah, my first startup was the second season of Conan O'Brien. I was an undergrad up at Vassar, about 90 minutes north of the city. And I had a public access cable TV show where the, I think, unless you have a freedom of

information act.

I don't think, I think the tapes are buried unless you sort of can, I would love to see that. I really enjoyed it. I was sort of, but I was, you know, sports editor of the Vassar paper, which sounds oxymoronic in itself. But I was like, boy, the minor leagues are fun. Let me try the majors. I had interned at NBC two summers prior over the business side

and called up and I said, hey, I got a real offer for you. boy, the minor leagues are fun. Let me try the majors. I had interned at NBC two summers prior over

the business side and called up and I said, hey, got a real offer for you. I want to work on Saturday Night Live while I'm finishing up my senior year of ASSA. He said, great, kid. And they said, great, here are your two choices. You got Donna you or this cable access quality show that's on at 1.30 in the morning called Conan O'Brien. And I picked that one.

And what did you do at Conan? So I, well, sometimes I stood on stage on a tape X because I was the intern that was closest in height to Conan. Oh, you were the other, you were a white guy tall enough to be known. Exactly. So it was something like, oh, is this going to hit Conan in the head, this prop or something, like let's try it out on Hunter.

But most of the time, I was there three days a week and I researched celebrity guests, wrote interview questions and worked with the segment producers to get that stuff on air. I manufactured spontaneity. There are a lot of, that sounds great. There are a lot of people, I imagine listening to this in the media world who would think, boy, if I had the chance to work on any TV show, let alone Conan O'Brien early in that career,

early in my career, that is what I would do for life. Was your plan? I want to be in media,

and this is what I'm going to do? Now, I need to lay on a couch if we're going to answer this

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