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SN 1054: Bots in the Belfry - Cisco Promises Real Security Fixes!

Security Now (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Cyber Crime, Malware, Technology, Encryption, Steve Gibson, Security, Hacking, Twit, Spyware, Leo Laporte

4.62.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 184 minutes

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Summary

Cisco has finally admitted it's time for real change and is vowing to build "secure by default" gear after decades of criticism. Steve Gibson reacts to a rare moment when a tech giant actually gets security right—and what it means for everyone running critical infrastructure.

• Scattered Lapsus$ Hunters strikes (Salesforce) again.
• Cisco actually (no kidding) sees the light.
• Next week, Australia bans all underage social media.
• The EU Parliament moves to replace US computer tech.
• When to use Passwords, Passkeys or Yubikeys.
• Do unpowered SSDs lose their data.
• How about a "Joy of Coding" podcast.
• A Bitwarden Passkeys integration glitch.
• XSLT is sneaky. It's where you don't expect it.
• We know where last week's picture came from.
• The long-awaited return of a new Stargate series.
• A simple test to check our networks for any bot infections.

Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1054-Notes.pdf

Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte

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0:00.0

It's time for security now. Steve Gibson is here with some good news for Cisco users.

0:07.4

What's going to happen in Australia next week? Steve's a little concerned.

0:12.1

When to use passwords, when to use pass keys, when to use hardware keys, the return of Stargate,

0:19.3

and a simple test to check your network for bot infections.

0:24.8

All that more coming up next on security now.

0:30.4

Podcasts you love from people you trust.

0:34.8

This is Twitter.

0:40.7

This. This is Twit. This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 154, recorded Tuesday, December 2nd, 2025.

0:49.5

Bots in the Belfrey.

0:51.9

It's time for security now, the show, we cover your security and privacy

0:56.4

and all that important stuff with the man of the hour, the man of every Tuesday's hour, Mr.

1:03.3

Steve Gibson. Hi, Steve. The man who spent two days getting this podcast ready for our

1:09.5

listeners. You work really hard.

1:11.4

I don't know if people realize they probably just assume, oh, you just show up and read

1:15.0

some stuff and talk.

1:16.4

No, you work really hard all weeks.

1:18.6

Well, and the amount of effort varies.

1:22.6

Sometimes there's just a lot of material that I can't provide any better than the original source.

1:32.5

Or I want to be very careful to exactly quote the original source, so I'm not doing a lot of

1:38.1

writing. This one was a writing heavy podcast. I had a lot of fun. It is also listener feedback heavy. I read

1:48.7

every single message that had been sent since the previous week's mailing. I often replied to a bunch,

1:58.6

but a lot of them are here in the podcast because they were shareworthy.

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