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🗓️ 25 November 2025
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Could banning VPNs really become law in the US? This episode breaks down the jaw-dropping legislation in Wisconsin and Michigan that targets VPN access for everyone, not just kids—and what it means for your digital privacy.
Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/SN-1053-Notes.pdf
Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for security. Now, Steve Gibson is here. We're going to talk about some interesting changes in Chrome, Warfare AI, the surprising lack of WhatsApp user privacy, maybe not so surprising. And then the plan to ban VPNs in the United States and elsewhere. All that and more coming up next on Security Now. |
| 0:26.2 | Podcasts you love from people you trust. This is Twitter. |
| 0:36.0 | This is Security Now with Steve Gibson, episode 153, recorded Tuesday, November 25th, 2025, |
| 0:44.6 | banning VPNs. |
| 0:47.9 | It's time for security now. |
| 0:50.1 | Well, lo and behold, here we are. |
| 0:51.7 | It's a Tuesday. |
| 0:53.1 | Two days till Thanksgiving in the United States. |
| 0:56.0 | But I'm thankful early because guess who's here? |
| 0:58.6 | Mr. Steve Gibson, the star of the show. |
| 1:01.5 | This is, this wouldn't be black Tuesday. |
| 1:04.5 | This would be green Tuesday. |
| 1:06.2 | It has nothing. |
| 1:07.2 | You know, it's like, don't go flying anywhere Tuesday is what it is. |
| 1:11.1 | Stay out of the airports and the parking lots Tuesday. |
| 1:13.6 | I do like that it's 1125.25. |
| 1:16.2 | That's good. |
| 1:17.1 | I like that. |
| 1:17.8 | So that's good. |
| 1:18.4 | That's our recording date for episode 1053, of course, 53 being the port number that DNS uses. |
| 1:27.8 | So who could. Wow. There's an obscure reference okay which may actually have some relevance no I don't |
| 1:37.8 | know that it does but today's podcast has what I hope is an ominous title because it's like there's like legislation |
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