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Smart Toilet, Soft Robotics, Naked Mole Rats. March 17, 2023, Part 2

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🗓️ 17 March 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Stop Flushing Your Health Data Down The Toilet You could be flushing important information about your health right down the toilet—quite literally. Pee and poop can tell you a lot about your health, so what if your waste…didn’t go to waste? What if, instead, it could tell you more about your health? Like number one, it can catch a condition like diabetes early. Or number two, check out what’s going on in your gut microbiome. That’s the goal of the smart toilet—a device that gets all up in your business to tell you more about your health. Ira talks with the inventor of the PH Smart Toilet, Dr. Seung-min Park, instructor of urology at Stanford’s School of Medicine in California, about how the toilet works, how it can be used to catch diseases early on, and the ethical implications of such a device.   50 Years Later, Reflecting On The Treaty That Controls Wildlife Trade 50 years ago this month, a collection of nations met in Washington and reached agreement on a way to regulate international trade in certain wildlife species—from orchids to gorillas. That agreement came to be known as CITES, the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora. The treaty has come to cover over 30,000 different plants and animals. Some, listed in Appendix 1 of the treaty, are under a complete ban on commercial use, while other species have their trade tightly regulated via a system of permits. Dr. Susan Lieberman, the vice president for international policy at the Wildlife Conservation Society, has attended the last 13 meetings of the CITES signatories. She joins Ira to talk about the convention, and what it has meant for conservation over the last 50 years.   This Skin-like Robot Can Heal Itself Think of a robot, and the image that may come to mind is a big, hulking body building cars or working in factories. They battle each other in the movies. But a growing field called softbotics focuses on thin, flexible materials—closer to human skin than to a Transformer. There’s been a breakthrough in this field out of Pittsburgh: softbotics that can not only conduct electricity, but can heal itself from damage. This replicates the healing abilities of organic materials, like skin, but can happen in seconds. Dr. Carmel Majidi, mechanical engineering professor at Carnegie Mellon University, joins Ira to break down possible futures for this material, including a new generation of prosthetics.   Naked Mole-Rats Are Eternally Fertile There may be no stranger—or more impressive—critter than the naked mole-rat. They may look unassuming, but they can defy aging, have an astonishingly high pain tolerance, and are resistant to cancer. And their list of superpowers doesn’t stop there. Scientists recently discovered yet another way these rodents reject the mammalian status quo: by producing egg cells, and staying fertile, until the day they die. This makes them unlike humans, whose ovaries eventually stop producing eggs. So what can we learn about fertility from these strange critters? Ira talks with the lead researcher of this study, Dr. Miguel Brieño-Enriquez, assistant professor at the Magee-Womens Research Institute and the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine’s Department of Obstetrics, Gynecology and Reproductive Sciences.   Transcripts for each segment will be available the week after the show airs on sciencefriday.com.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Later in the hour, happy 50th birthday to CITES, the agreement that regulates the trade of wildlife and plants.

0:11.2

We're going to check in on how much progress has been made these last 50 years, plus a breakthrough in material science.

0:19.0

Get this, a soft robot that can heal itself. We'll talk about

0:23.7

what we can learn from these more skin-like bots, and no, they are not as creepy as they

0:29.5

may sound. Trust me. But before we get into that, I want to bring on a guest who is doing his duty

0:35.4

to literally do his duty. He's developing a toilet that analyzes

0:41.3

your waist and might be able to help diagnose an illness from sampling it. In other words,

0:47.8

you could be flushing important information about your health right down the toilet,

0:53.9

and I mean that literally. But what if your

0:57.1

waste didn't go to waste? What if instead it could tell you more about your health, like number one,

1:05.3

checking on your number one and catching a condition like diabetes early.

1:15.9

Or number two, checking out number two, to see what's going on in your gut.

1:19.1

Maybe your microbiome needs some attention.

1:28.1

That's the goal of the smart toilet, a device that gets all up in your business to tell you more about your business, so to speak.

1:35.7

Conditions like urinary tract or kidney infections, even cancer, can be detected by what gets dumped into a toilet. And as cool as it may sound, it does bring up concerns about privacy

1:42.6

and ethics. For example, the toilet keeps track of who is using it by taking fingerprints of your fingers

1:50.1

and, well, of your rear end, even photos of your butt.

1:56.0

So how do we keep that very personal stuff out of the wrong hands? Just a brief heads up, we're going to get a bit

2:04.3

graphic in the interest of science, of course, all the way to the end, if you know what I mean.

2:11.0

Joining me is the inventor of the pH smart toilet, Dr. Sun Ming Park, instructor of urology at Stanford University School of Medicine

2:19.9

in Stanford, California. Welcome to Science Friday. Yeah, thank you for having me today.

2:25.5

How does the toilet learn about me? Even if you are a superhuman, you cannot avoid number one and

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