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secure. I'm John Batchel with my good colleague, Gene Marks. It's wonderful to welcome him back from

Bergen, Norway, to plunge into the Trump administration version 2.2. There is a big tax cut and jobs

act ahead of us in the Congress, but there's reason

you can make assumptions now about small business and taxes and the momentum of the GDP

and immigration. All three things are small business challenges. How are they doing, Gene?

Let me also.

I got to even like nudge something else to the top of the list, John, only because it's

been an issue this week.

I mean, you know, I think you say like in my introduction, I do a podcast with Paychecks

Corporation and they're like, you know, they're one of the biggest HR companies in the

country. And, you know, they've been telling me that they've had

this, you know, uptick and more interesting concern from their customers. They have like 750,000

customers about compliance stuff. I mean, you know, first of all, there's there's a lot more

complexity. Trump, you know, small business optimism right now, according to the National Federation of Independent Businesses, is at a six-year high, which is great news.

And a lot of other surveys are saying like the same thing.

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