Hi this is Hope.

This is K

Katie from Washington, D.C. You're not supposed to use a word beef, Doug, when you talk to this audience. We've learned that when we send an email about the, beefing up the marathon robot,

and we got 19 replies saying that we shouldn't do that.

You're right?

So, you mean, you're trying to bulk up?

Bulk up.

I'm trying to bulk up? Bulk up. I'm trying to bulk up.

Okay.

Good. A muscular machine.

Even though you're married, you're still trying to focus on your body?

You know, well, I, you want to know the truth was that I went and visited a friend who had a

pull-up bar in his doorway and I was like walking by it and I just jumped on it and started doing some pull-ups and I could only do two and I was like, oh my gosh, this is not good.

This is not good at all.

No, I was like, oh man, I need to do something about this.

That's the thing that, I mean, running,

specifically ultra running, you can seem like you're in pretty good shape and have a really poor fitness when it comes to anything except for running.

I mean I think I feel like if you're I could be wrong with this too. I think if you're a marathoner and you're top level, you know,

for yourself you're as good as you get at marathons. I feel like you pretty much have to kind of be in some shape and have some strength

just because to do that you're probably doing some speed work and

speed work at least for me tends to like work other muscles too like you can I can see a difference when I'm doing that

The longer you go though it seems like it almost becomes more of a skill and like you can you can be really good at running long distances without actually being in any good physical shape.

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