What has nourished human beings for all time?

We have the evidence.

Not a question.

We're not like on some kind of goddamn spiritual-ass quest.

We have the data.

It is connection.

It is community.

It is a sense of purpose.

It is having your basic needs met that every human being needs.

And it's, you know, fighting for the

right to have those things for all of us.

Let me Out.

This week, it's a conversation with Virgie Tovar. She's an author, activist, one of the nation's leading experts and lectures on weight-based discrimination. She holds a master's degree in sexuality studies with a focus on the intersections of body size, race, and gender.

She's a contributor to Forbes, and she's been covered in the New York Times and the BBC and MTV and NPR and so many more, so many more credentials.

She has an incredible TED talk.

She's written multiple books, and podcast Rebel Eaters Club is in

its third season and I love so much we talk about a little bit at the beginning of this. She

lives in San Francisco and she's a friend of mine. We talk about how we met. She actually did the

podcast about a year ago and we didn't have enough time and I really wanted to have her back on and here we are. And turns out we didn't have enough time this time either. So I'm going to break it into two. I don't know how you feel about me doing that. I'm not even sure how I feel about me doing that. but we're going to try it again this week. And next week's episode will be the second half, or actually the third,

if I cut this into thirds, I'm going to give you two thirds of it today. And then next week I'll give you

the last bit where we cover, well, I'll tell you at the end of what we cover, but as I always say,

the very end is when it really comes alive. So come back then. And I'm going to add in some other,

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