This could have been prevented in so many different ways.

And it really gets back to just the way that environmental disasters are regulated, right?

The burden of proof is all in the community.

They're going to have to prove their own health impacts.

The company is not going to go around and say, oh, you have this rash.

Well, that might be, that's probably our fault.

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So today, Abby and I are here with a great guest to talk about the Ohio train accident

that happened in early February, where a Norfolk Southern train carrying toxic and

combustible materials derailed.

And we have an expert here who is well versed in the way that these things

impact the environment and our bodies to discuss the response, management, and context

of both the accident and its aftermath. Kimberly Garrett is an environmental health researcher

and toxicologist who currently works studying social, scientific, and political dimensions

of PFOS contamination, also known as

Forever Chemicals, at the P-FOS Project at Northeastern University. Kimberly, welcome to the

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