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Slow Burn - The Road to the Iraq War | 2. Terror

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🗓️ 28 April 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Just hours after 9/11, American decision makers had already started thinking about attacking Iraq. When the anthrax attacks began a month later, those ideas went into overdrive. Did Iraq have anything to do with mailing anthrax letters? Did it matter?

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Season 5 of Slow Burn is produced by Noreen Malone, Jayson De Leon, and Sophie Summergrad. Mixing by Merritt Jacob.


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0:00.0

On day six of the smallpox epidemic, 300 people have died.

0:09.0

At least 2,000 are infected with smallpox.

0:12.1

This is not a real news report.

0:14.9

It's from a video that was commissioned for a war game in June 2001.

0:19.5

The U.S. smallpox vaccine supply continues to shrink as officials try to stretch limited stocks to cover the entire nation.

0:26.9

The guy who came up with those phony news videos was a former fighter pilot.

0:31.4

I am Randy Larson, Colonel U.S. Air Force retired.

0:35.5

Larson taught at the National War College, a school run by the U.S. Department

0:39.0

of Defense. In the early aughts, he had a reputation for creating really good war games.

0:45.4

Larson had specialized in classic scenarios where one country attacked another, but the nature of war

0:50.6

was changing. A group of influential think tanks and academics brought on Larson

0:55.4

to design a new kind of game, one that would show the government what it might be like

0:59.6

if terrorists attacked the U.S. with biological weapons. The smallpox war game was called

1:05.0

Dark Winter.

1:08.3

We had, I think, a dozen participants.

1:11.8

You're seated around the table, and we would provide them briefings like they would get in a meeting in the White House during a crisis.

1:21.1

We would provide those phony newscasts that we made to give them kind of situational awareness. Here's what's going on.

1:30.5

The dark winter simulation took place at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.

1:35.3

Former Senator Sam Nunn played the president. Longtime presidential staffer David Gergen

1:40.2

played the National Security Advisor. And journalists were there, too, playing themselves.

1:45.8

We had a producer from CBS News.

1:48.0

We had Judy Miller from New York Times.

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