I've never vocalized that.

It's just that it's so effing uncomfortable to talk about.

Honestly, I prefer to avoid, we avoid the subject.

I think we're going to have to skip that question.

This makes me very uncomfortable.

We don't talk about it.

I'm actually surprised that she says something about it to you, Anna, because, like, we don't know you at all. This is Death, Sex, and money from WNYC.

I'm Anna Sale.

This show is about the things we think about a lot

and need to talk about more, as we say.

Of course, talking about hard things

that you don't have much practice talking about out loud

can be unsettling and uncomfortable.

It can also feel like the deepest exhale you didn't know you were waiting for.

I've been a part of conversations that run the gamut while hosting this show.

Sometimes as an interviewer, it feels like I'm witnessing someone named something that they never have

before, which can seem liberating and empowering. Other times, I hit on places where someone isn't

ready to share, which is totally fine by me, or when the person I'm talking to doesn't like what

our conversation is making them realize about themselves. In this episode, we're going to look back

at seven moments in our show's seven-year history of what I remember as some of our hardest

conversations. I've been thinking back about this because on May 4th, a book that I've been

working on for years is coming out. It's called Let's Talk About Hard Things.

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