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Slow Burn: A National Disgrace

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In honor of the holiday, enjoy this episode from our colleagues at Slow Burn. What Next resumes regular programming tomorrow.


Anita Hill’s accusations launched urgent and heated conversations about racism and sexual harassment. They also stoked an anger in Clarence Thomas that’s never stopped raging.


Season 8 of Slow Burn is produced by Joel Anderson, Sophie Summergrad, Sam Kim, and Sofie Kodner.


Josh Levin is the editorial director of Slow Burn.


Derek John is Slate’s executive producer of narrative podcasts.


Susan Matthews is Slate’s executive editor.


This episode was edited by Josh Levin, Derek John, Sophie Summergrad, and Joel Meyer.


Merritt Jacob is our senior technical director.


Our theme music is composed by Alexis Cuadrado. Artwork by Ivylise Simones.


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0:00.0

Hey, what next listener. I've got a little something special for you on this July 4th holiday.

0:09.3

One of our fellow Slate podcasts, Slowburn, has got a timely new season on Justice Clarence Thomas's surprising journey to the Supreme Court.

0:17.3

Thomas is one of the most powerful figures in America today, as the recent Supreme Court term made abundantly clear.

0:23.7

In this episode, Slow Burn host Joel Anderson revisits Thomas's bruising confirmation fight.

0:30.2

You'll hear not only from Anita Hill, but from other women who never got a chance to testify.

0:35.5

And Joel goes back to Thomas's hometown to see how his

0:38.7

path to the court has influenced his decisions on the court, which affect all of us. Make sure to

0:45.2

subscribe to Slow Burn to hear the whole series. We'll be back with a new episode of What Next,

0:50.0

tomorrow. But for now, here's Joel. It was George Kasuf's job to be nosy. He was essentially a detective based out of Washington, D.C.,

1:00.0

and he had a very specific niche. What I did, and it was pretty much a one-person operation, was investigate whoever would be nominated to the federal courts.

1:12.9

Kassuf knew how to dig through a judge's professional past, excavating their true beliefs

1:17.6

from long-forgotten rulings and speeches.

1:20.5

A lot of it was just going to the library and also talking to lots of people.

1:26.5

That's what I think I was really good at,

1:28.4

is just letting people talk to me.

1:30.2

That's least what my boss always thought,

1:31.8

anybody will talk to you, George.

1:33.9

He worked for a progressive advocacy group

1:36.5

called The Alliance for Justice.

1:38.8

And in the late 80s and early 90s,

1:41.0

with Republicans controlling the White House,

1:43.4

pretty much every judge he vetted

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