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So we had plans today to talk about.

Yeah, mom stuff.

Yes.

And so what's happened between you and your mom, between when I saw you last and now?

Any updates?

Yeah, so basically we saw my mom on Sunday and we showed up and, you know, her house was like kind of in shambles,

and there were a lot of junk food wrappers and a lot of garbage on the floor.

And it just reminded me of my upbringing a lot,

and I think when I get to that point, I, like, shut off a little bit.

I'm Hillary McBride.

I'm a clinical counselor, and this is other people's problems,

a show about real life therapy.

You'll remember meeting Sloan first in season one of other people's problems.

In our work together, Sloan and I were starting to name the complexity of what she'd been through growing up, the abuse and the trauma.

And we'd even talked about using the label of complex PTSD. At this point, Sloan is now

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