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Yeah, I mean, I need to, like I have my application at Douglas that I sent last week.

You did, wow.

I need to send my transcript, but I just, I don't think I'm going to do it.

And I'm like, I just wish someone could make these decisions for me.

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This is other people's problems, a show about real life therapy.

Yeah. a show about real life therapy. On this episode, you're going to hear from my client who wants to be called Dave.

I started seeing Dave for issues surrounding his mood, anxiety and depression.

But as we started working together, it seems that there's more going on here than just anxiety and depression.

Dave is struggling with being a young adult and figuring out who he is in the world,

how to take care of himself and take responsibility for his life.

In this episode, we're talking about the shame that acts as a barrier for Dave to engage with the world and with life in a way that would feel exciting or energizing, perhaps meaningful.

When Dave was younger, his parents divorced in a way that was extremely difficult for him. It felt like his whole world fell apart. Things were known and stable. And while there was conflict in his family home,

it was predictable. It was known to him. And when his parents separated, he felt like everything

fell apart. There was so much conflict between his parents that I think Dave feels like

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