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The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

Slim Jim Phantom | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

Billy Corgan

Music, Arts, Performing Arts

4.6 • 731 Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Rockabilly legend Slim Jim Phantom sits down with Billy Corgan for a fascinating look into the birth of the Stray Cats and the unlikely road from Long Island bars to global rock stardom. Phantom traces his musical roots from studying under jazz drummer Mousey Alexander to discovering the raw power of Elvis Presley, Gene Vincent, and Eddie Cochran. What followed was pure rock-and-roll mythology: three young musicians chasing a dream to London with almost no money, sleeping in parks, and hustling for gigs until word spread through the British music underground. Soon icons like Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Ray Davies were showing up at their shows—helping launch the Stray Cats into international fame. It’s a conversation about risk, rebellion, and how a “too weird” band helped spark an entire revival. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

There was no way that I could do that.

0:03.0

Might as well imagine me being a helicopter pilot.

0:06.0

I couldn't imagine doing that.

0:08.0

But the drums I could, I can relate.

0:10.0

Drummer's are a special breed.

0:12.0

It wasn't punk, it wasn't New Wave, it wasn't metal, it wasn't Southern Fried Rock.

0:16.0

It wasn't anything. It was too weird, really.

0:19.0

You guys kind of created this foundation for other lovers of Rockabilly to kind of find a welcome within the alternative space.

0:27.7

It was wacky. I would bring my friends home. I had a pool table and a pool and a sauna the next day for a hangover, you know.

0:33.2

And I was just, my house was a nice, you know, kind of a respectable party house.

0:40.5

Slim Jim Phantom, thank you for being on my show.

0:42.8

It's a real honor.

0:44.7

Let's start with Mousie Alexander.

0:46.9

I found this an intriguing way to jump into your musical journey.

0:51.1

Mousie Alexander was a jazz drummer.

0:56.1

And his fame came.

0:58.3

He had played with Benny Goodman Orchestra.

1:00.9

He had also played with Dinah Washington.

1:03.8

And where we grew up, Massapeco Long Island,

1:06.9

he was a drum teacher.

1:09.6

And he lived like four or five train stops away.

1:12.1

Massapeco, Massapeco Park, Seafield, Belmore, Wanda, everybody knows that.

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