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Hey moms, this is Heidi St. John, and I'm kind of laughing because you know we've been

talking about sleepovers and we're kind of having one. That's right. Dorenda and her three

kids have been hanging out here with the St. John family for a few days, and we're having

a good time. We are. We're really having a good time, and here we are talking about sleepovers.

And it's funny because when we came to your house for the fearless conference, we had

arrangements for our kids, and now you're at my house and we have arrangements for our kids,

and I think it's pretty much based on the kid, right? And how well we think they're going

to do. And you know, when I was a kid, I didn't ever think I'd be an overprotective

parent. I'm kind of, I'm laughing a little because I'm thinking I never thought of myself

as an overprotective parent, and I kind of still think that. I don't think I'm overprotective.

I feel like the culture has changed a little bit. And the other day we were talking about

sleepovers, and we were saying pretty much Dorenda and I both came to the same conclusion

over different periods of time in different parts of the country even, and kind of how

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